This is what made me feel like I needed a transmission cooler anyway, since the reason is because it works like a non-towing package version, which I had. The total dry weight of this trailer is 3210#. How do we know if we need one on a vehicle that is not equiped with one and will be pulling a trailer. you frequently tow a lot of weight in mountainous terrain, or (3.) Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 5, 2015 (Edited) Hello, We were planning on towing a 1-axle (3,500 lb limit) camper trailer soon with some amount of cargo inside the Highlander (just two people). Posts: 691. There was a service bulletin with these transmission coolers in cold weather where the thermostat wouldn't open and the transmission would overheat while towing. for around $900. Will the addition of the two coolers affect MPG when not towing? I always get that although I will never tow a trailer, because anything you you can do to keep it alive longer is better. By your message, you seem to be aware of our towing recommendations for your 2009 Forester and that we do not feel that a transmission cooler is necessary, which is why we do not offer one. The dealer wants to add power steering cooler & transmission cooler for over $1200. bing in waterloo Posts: 4387 Joined: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:01 am Location: Waterloo, ON Vehicle: 2018 Ltd AWD White Gold w/ APP. It's combined as one part with the A/C condenser, but the fluid flows through it's own independent path. It's money well spent. This recommendation would be the same if you, a Subaru dealer or an independent source installed the transmission cooler. Imagine running a marathon … _____ Greg 1. Save Share. The '27 T runs 383 SBC & Turbo 350. Post Reply. Transmission Cooler needed? On the trip using my 2020 PP Elite with OEM hitch and transmission cooler the tow was effortless. Subaru confirmed she could add the FULL towing package including transmission cooler, hitch, bar, harness, etc. The curb weight of the trailer is 2600 lbs. A vehicle that we use for towing may sometimes benefit from an additional transmission cooler. And every Flex ever made has an independent transmission cooler. And its only that new model. The trailer dealer said I should get a tow package installed including the Reese type hitch, 7 pin electrical, fan clutch, and transmission cooler. For the same reason, the addition of an auxiliary transmission fluid cooler isn’t just necessary for those who tow trailers anymore. For the other reasons, the addition of a transmission fluid cooler is not only necessary for that car’s who used the trailers systems anymore. 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. Since excessive heat is your transmission’s worst enemy, a trans-cooler is an ideal and often necessary towing accessory. Heat is the major factor. Below I will provide you with our statement regarding aftermarket products. While you may not think much of it, towing, even for short distances, can do significant damage to your vehicle’s transmission. One issue I found was the PP is wider than the Outback and the Honda hitch is shorter than the Curt hitch on the Subaru. An auxiliary transmission cooler will not increase the towing or hauling capacity of a vehicle. A lot of cars have a transmission oil cooler as an option, usually with a trailer-towing package. Another method is a transmission fluid temperature warning to alert the driver to stop and let the transmission cool off. If you are looking for a more heavy duty transmission cooler for towing or drag racing applications for example, you can expect to spend anywhere from $50 to over $200. The Transmission Coolers used to provide help to transmissions and the coolers can deal with the generated stress as well as heat which are caused by towing boats, trailers systems and other objects. I emailed Toyota here in Aus ( not the dealer) and Toyota said that no additional cooler is necessary when towing up to the approved load. Jan 3, 2019 at 11:02 AM #1 #1. We went up the Ike Gauntlet to see if a Toyota Tundra needs a transmission cooler. Long trips, hill climbing and towing larger trailers are especially hard on your transmission. I just purchased a 2019 4Runner Limited. For high performance street cars or trucks that are subjected to heavy loads or towing, bigger is always better. Not all towing has to be detrimental, however. General Discussion. I plan on towing a 21 foot Escape travel trailer. Other than using a manual transmission, the traditional method to solve this problem is to install a towing package, which usually consists of a separate transmission oil cooler, instead of using the regular oil cooler which is part of the engine cooling radiator. The coolers are required when towing anything, now if it was just a bike hitch with the mountain bike I would ask the question, but if your pulling something I would totally advise getting the Transmission cooler. An auxilliary transmission cooler, properly installed, is a good idea. The car is rated to pull 3500 lbs. Towing and Your Transmission. I monitor the fluid temp with Scangauge as there is a temp sensor built into the transmission. 99% sure it was in the ford owners manual under towing . Every Ford 10R80 has a cooler installed, and after several years of service in the F150 I haven't seen anything to suggest that something else is needed. Discussion Starter • #1 • 12 mo ago. Adding a transmission cooler is a good idea. Automatic transmission fluid deteriorates with use, and especially with heavy use, such as towing and/or driving in mountainous terrain. Also, a transmission cooler … That poster regularly towed in Texas heat, in stop and go traffic and wanted additional protection. It does so by cooling heated fluid that is sent through it by using the air flowing over the fins of the cooler. You just need a more powerful vehicle. Hot transmission fluid running through the cooling system causes 50% of all radiator boilovers. Waldo … But a temperature gauge is a good addition too. Continue with Google. Reply . I have a 2014 Touareg with towing package, towing a 5000 lb travel trailer. If you overload the vehicle, no amount of cooling will make it haul or tow more than the maximum specified weight. Because of this when my spotter (wife) was on my right while backing and turning, I dented the left rear quarter panel of the PP with the trailer front end. The nature of the Earl’s Temp-A-Cure cooler (shown in the slideshow) allows it to be manufactured in countless different sizes. The dealership she purchased from (not a Toyota dealer) assured her the Highlander was more than sufficient to tow the … As we’ve already mentioned, it’s impossible to overcool an automatic transmission. Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010 +)' started by Telescopist, Jan 3, 2019. An auxiliary cooler may help with temperature that rises slightly above this when towing. Also getting electric assist breaks. Permalink . It should have no problems with a 3000lb trailer. Who really needs a transmission oil cooler? Telescopist [OP] New Member. you are close to or above Nissan's maximum recommended towing capacity, (2.) Date: 10:56 AM Feb 20, 2020. Typically, the factory transmission cooler is inside one of the radiator tanks. 6 Posts . I have a 2009 Kia Sedona with a 6 cyl engine and will be pulling a Spree Escape E19SB. I've got a 2017 Frontier SV V6 4.0 & will be towing a 5.5-6k# loaded travel trailer from FL to NC, TN, VA. 6 speed manual transmission (only Honda Odyssey, Pilot and Ridgeline can tow 3500lbs at max, Honda transmissions arent built for abuse), specially designed coolers, reinforced body, brakes and suspension. In fact, as long as you maintain your vehicle and do not commit common towing errors, you can ensure you do not cause any costly damage to your transmission. Joined: Jan 3, 2019 Member: #8313 Messages: 6 Gender: Male. Transmission Cooler. Our 1973 Ford F-350 was in need of a transmission cooler to protect it from future damage; a process that can be done to any automatic transmission. 57 Posts . GMC said she did not need a transmission cooler but their towing reviews were terrible. Adding Tow Package to Honda PIlot. HOWEVER, my Toyota parts dealer said a transmission cooler is not necessary. Is this true? The designers aren't perfect, even back in the 80s the manufacturers advised fitting a transmission cooler if towing . Our Territory seems to operate well now that additional oil cooling is provided,what’s the general consensus? Transmission cooler necessary for towing with car?? I think even in Maine is gets hot. Building the '27 T we have a smaller radiator (height & thickness space restrictions) and to keep the motor & transmission cool we decided to run an auxillary tranny cooler with an electric fan. Top. I’ll be getting a Guru. (1.) Many manufacturers are now also recommending the addition of a transmission cooler if you carry extra passengers or cargo (ie – vacation, car-pool), drive in stop-and-go traffic, drive in hot or very cold weather, or climb steep inclines. Continue with Facebook. The boost in towing for the adventure is that literally everything has been upgraded for towing. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. A separate tranny cooler on an automatic is never a bad or expensive idea but in your case I wouldn't consider it a necessity. If your van has the towing package, which, in 2005, included a transmission cooler, the cooling should be adequate. The Toy dealer said the tranny fluid also runs through the radiator anyway, so the fan clutch is sufficient. My old '06 Subaru 2.5 had a towing capacity of 2000 and I towed my three seater down I-95 ~600 miles when I moved to Myrtle Beach. Our questions are: Do we really need them or can we just get an after market hitch for less than $500. Towing increases the load on the transmission, and this produces more heat. Towing is hot work. The fan is needed because the tranny cooler is positioned on the rear frame kickup, instead of in front of the radiator. Status: Offline. A transmission cooler will only set you back 200 bucks MAX, and a new van would be 30 Grand. If there was, Ford would sell an auxillary cooler for it in the F150 tow package, but they don't. Transmission issues + Transmission cooler needed? ;) ... complete with additional transmission oil cooler,my question to you experienced Touareg owners..is adding another transmission oil cooler necessary? I believe it applies to this generation so, to be safe, I left mine pinned … Only one poster in my memory, with a 2005 3.3l van, added an additional cooler. They are yet to make the perfect vehicle capable of performing in all conditions without some alteration . Do I need to install a transmission cooler? 04-15 … A good example is a transmission that stays within the normal range of 175 to 200 degrees Fahrenheit when not towing. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 7 of 7 Posts. A transmission cooler is a component that you can add on to your transmission that, big shock here, cools your transmission. However, common issues with this particular transmission cooler kit include not receiving the necessary parts to install the cooler and occasional design flaws with the plates. Re: Towing opinions needed. She assumed it would be similar with the Toyota. Join the discussion. Granted the car was a 5 speed but I had no problems with it what so ever. Post by bing in waterloo » Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:21 am. you had previously "bypassed" the original in-the-radiator ATF cooler (to avoid the SMOD problem that some 2005-2010 V6 Frontiers had). CarTalk.com Best of Deals Car Reviews Repair Shops Cars A-Z Radio Show. Am I concerned, Yes given the fluid temperature I am seeing so I will be fitting an additional cooler. Towing/Offroading. The cooled liquid is then sent back to the transmission in a continuous loop. I know they come as part of a trailer towing package on any factory vehicle. Transmission cooler kits usually come with all the necessary tools, hardware and directions to install it yourself.